Axis Wakeboard Boat Forum

I'm also curious on wakeboard wake comparison between the '15 A22 and T23.

Never ridden behind an A24. If we sell our 2014 A22 we would be replacing with a 2015 A22 or the 2015 T-23.

That would be useful info for me too since they changed the hull on the A22 from my 2014 to 2015....

Knowing the difference in wakeboard wake between the 2014 A22, 2015 A22, and 2015 T-23 is what I am after. Guess its too early to know since most people wont demo until spring.... Im looking at you folks in the southwest US that still have warmish water for help!

2015 A22 or T23 is a no brainer for the T23. T23 will have more than enough wake for boarding. Afterall, you are comparing Axis to Axis wakeboard wakes. They are all very similar in shape from A20 to A24...they just get bigger and beefier. They all retain that clean wake down to 17-18mph for beginners or new tricks or you can add 5000lbs in ballast, prop it, and have all the wake a pro needs. It'll just come down to surf wake with the T23, more storage, and just a bigger boat. I live near a large open water lake that can get blown out. That's why I always go with the biggest boat in a series. Plus you can never have too much room.

Comparing a 2015 A22 to your 2014 wouldn't be like comparing 2 totally different boats, it'll be subtle if anything. Not like comparing a Nautique to an Axis or even a VLX to and Axis.

True and good info. I rode behind a '15 A24 and was getting straight booted with little effort. My '13 A20 throws a huge wake, but that A24 was just massive.

My concern, and I know there's still some debate on this topic, is whether the base 350 will be "enough" for the T23 when it's all said and done.

Understandable about the new gearing in the 350. The couple 2015 LSV surf videos I've seen were fairly loaded down boats with propped 350's close to sea level. Reports are that the new gearing ratio in the 350 will satisfy most of us. However, the 2015 Malibus have a new wedge design that lifts the transom of the boat when planing which reportedly has been a favorite improvement for 2015. Axis does not have this new wedge plate design. The LSV also weighs 500lbs more than the A22 and 300lbs more than the T23.

Yeah the 350 question is a good one too. We load our boats down pretty heavy. My '14 A22 has the stock ballast (900) plus 2-400's in the rear, 950 arrow, and 400-500 pound of lead throughout. And we usually put an aditional 400lb sac on the front seats plus 3-5 people in the cabin. All of that plus the wedge and it takes around 7-8 seconds to plane out with the torque prop. If I went with the T-23, I would change the 400's in the rear to 750's. With the additional weight from the length of the 23 and the additional weight of the 750's, I am concerned about being able to run the wedge (I know a lot of people dont run it with a lot of weight) and getting out of the hole.

The wedge definitely is a plow when trying to plane out when heavily loaded and is the deal breaker when you're at or close to your motor's limit.

Yep, wedge and crew size will likely be the tipping point. An aggressively propped 350 shouldn't have issues, until you go out with a large crew (6+ adults?), load it down, and drop the wedge. This is the scenario that I want to demo.

Agreed